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Posted by: xeneize For six centuries the romans, parthians bizantines and sassanids clash in the levant, from Carrahe (53 BC) to Ninive (628 AC) the most powerfull empires figth dozens of battles, make important gains, suffer great losses and wasted their power and recurses for no strategic gain. At the end the muslim armies overrun almost evrything. Is a topic whort of ESSECIAL HISTORIES
Posted on: 03/01/2013 02:39:00

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Posted by: mrhistory2
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this would be a good essential histories and a campaign book on Carrhae.
Posted on: 03/01/2013 13:39:00
Posted by: WickedMessenger
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Might even include that story of a Roman legion that made it all the way to China. But then we're dealing with fantasy history...
Posted on: 03/01/2013 15:22:00
Posted by: xeneize
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The roman soldiers in china is not a fantasy, were prisionners of Carrahe , they even give to the chinese roman thecnics, is not sure but chinese did tell about a formation very similar of the famous roman "testudo"
Posted on: 03/01/2013 21:57:00
Posted by: KL49
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There idea that survivors of Carrhae ended up in China is based on rather flimsy evidence and a lot of speculation. According to Pliny’s Natural History (Book 6, Chapter 18), the Parthians sent the captured survivors of Crassus’ army to Margiana (present day Merv in Turkmenistan). Here they were installed as a frontier force to protect the north-eastern corner of the Parthian realm, presumably against the Yueh-Chih and other Central Asian nations. That's the last we hear of them from Western sources. Some years later, much further to the East, there was a war between rival Hsiung-nu leaders. The loser subsequently sought Chinese aid to regain power, while the victor, Jzh Jzh, tried to extend his influence over regions to the north and west. A Chinese expeditionary force was sent to fight on behalf of his defeated rival and attacked Jzh Jzh's capital in 36 BC. Here, they reportedly encountered enemy troops deployed in an unusual "fish scale" formation, and some have speculated that these were Romans from Margiana whom Jzh Jzh had take into his service during his period of westward expansion and relocated several hundred miles to the East to help defend his capital. However, the details of the battle in which the strange "fish scale" formation was seen are only known from a later Chinese historian, who preserved an earlier description of some long-lost paintings commemorating the campaign. There's no "eyewitness" account of the strange enemy troops from a participant in the campaign, or any indication of their equipment or ethnicity.
Posted on: 04/01/2013 18:59:00
Posted by: Gaiiten
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The theme of the Roman-Persian Wars deserves, imho, a serie of related books (MAA, Warrior, Elite, Campaign, Fortress) as Osprey has done in such an exemplary manner with the Greek-Persian wars.
Posted on: 05/01/2013 16:11:00
Posted by: moraka
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I agree with this, considering two very powerfull forces in the ancient world, had so many wars with each other and where practically equal in strength. And their constant wars with each other, helped to shape the islamic world faster than it would otherwise. It is something worth reading.
Posted on: 07/01/2013 02:01:00
Posted by: albertomv
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Totally agree with Gaiiten
Posted on: 10/01/2013 07:42:00
Posted by: Gaiiten
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With "Shadows in the Desert" we do already have somewhat of (an excellent) Essential History. Some events of the wars are very well described in sources. I have to think of the Siege of Amida 359 AD and Julian Apostata`s Persian campaign 361 (both as Campaign titels). The 6th century battles Belisar had to fight at Dara and Callinicum are in contrast (first a Roman victory, late a Roman defeat). So these two battles could be combined in another Campaign title.
Posted on: 10/01/2013 14:15:00

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