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Posted by: Blood Rave We've had the Boudiccan revolt and Mons Graphius covered by Osprey, How about a campaign covering the initial invasion. It was a very key moment in the history of the British Isles. With leaders like Caracatus who gave the Romans nothing but trouble for years, it makes for a good campaign.
Posted on: 03/06/2013 07:35:00

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Posted by: Nick Hunter
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Unfortunately, we don't have a huge amount of data.
Posted on: 03/06/2013 10:16:00
Posted by: Blood Rave
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We have Tacitus as a source, but then again you've got to take Tacitus with a pinch of salt
Posted on: 03/06/2013 12:59:00
Posted by: Nick Hunter
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Indeed....and we have little beyond him. It might be worth doing a book looking at the invasion of britain that highlights the issues of evidence, and the different interpretations placed upon it (eg the "Heirs of king Verica" scenario which sees the romans as being invited in by local elites, as well as the traditional "Roman version of D-day" popular with the older textbooks. But I'm not sure that sort of book really firs Osprey's format
Posted on: 03/06/2013 13:34:00
Posted by: AdamC
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I know I may be sitting on the fence here but I think you are both right on this one. On the one hand I think that a Campaign title on The Medway 43 AD would certainly be a good and achievable title (Tacitus does give us a relatively detailed description of the battle – and opposed river cross – if nothing else) and would certainly be a title I’d buy. However, as Nick points out, beyond Tacitus, you are struggling for sources so you would have to rely heavily on archaeological evidence and educated speculation. While this does throw up problems it isn’t without precedent in Campaign as volumes 233, 228 and 224 show. Providing archaeological evidence is used in the same way and any conjecture is well thought out and argued (as it was in the above three books) I see no problem with this title seeing the light of day.
Posted on: 03/06/2013 14:26:00
Posted by: AdamC
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Sorry that should say "opposed river crossing".
Posted on: 03/06/2013 14:27:00
Posted by: WickedMessenger
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Isn't that the problem with Mons Graupus as well? That Tacitus is all we have? We don't even know where that battle was.
Posted on: 03/06/2013 18:58:00
Posted by: KL49
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Not only do we not know where Mons Graupius was fought, but a number of scholars have doubted whether the battle even occurred. Tacitus states that he wrote his account specifically to honor his father-in-law, Cn. Julius Agricola, and the work shows signs of having been modeled on similar tributes to prominent Romans composed by earlier writers, which were expected to feature various stock elements, whether or not they had actually occurred. In the case of Mons Graupius, not only are the pre-battle speeches obviously invented, but the battle itself may well be entirely fictional.
Posted on: 04/06/2013 02:35:00
Posted by: Blood Rave
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At least with the Boudiccan revolt, we have both Tacitus and Cassius Dio, with 3 very unique areas of archaeology, but even Boudicca's last battlefield is unknown. I agree on Mon Grauphius, it's very suspect.
Posted on: 04/06/2013 04:29:00
Posted by: WickedMessenger
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A barbaric warrior saying: They create a desert and call it peace. I always loved that quote. But it was too good to be true, right?
Posted on: 04/06/2013 10:02:00
Posted by: Nick Hunter
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Yeah, the original was probably "They create a dessert, and call it pies" or something like that.
Posted on: 04/06/2013 10:13:00
Posted by: Hugo Rodrigues
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43 AD falls right into one of the major lacunae in Tacitus' "Annals". The most detailed ancient literary source for this campaign is the Book LX of Cassius Dio.
Posted on: 04/06/2013 18:47:00
Posted by: Blood Rave
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It's an interesting period of time within the Roman Empire, With the murder of Caligula, the Praetorians made Claudius emperor, his Invasion of Britain was a political gamble and to achieve it he decided to do things the Roman way and invade so he'd be remembered as a victorious emperor who added more lands and peoples to the empire.
Posted on: 07/06/2013 04:26:00
Posted by: scratchbuilder
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We have several Fortress books on the Roman Empire, but nothing on Roman field engineering. Was it Titus Livius who wrote that more barbarians had been defeated by watching a Roman army entrench than had ever been beaten in the field?
Posted on: 09/07/2013 20:03:00
Posted by: Blood Rave
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Definitely something on Roman field fortifications would be nice, considering that at the end of every march, they spent at least 2 hours building a fortified camp. They were the masters at the art of fortification in the field.
Posted on: 16/07/2013 08:48:00
Posted by: .George Washington
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How about a RAID instead?
Posted on: 11/02/2014 13:38:00

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