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Posted by: xeneize Vietnam was a combination of, at the time, modern and old infantry weapons , the M16 and the AK-47, of course, were the most common, but some rare weapons surface in the war. The most unique was ONE HK-33 in hands of a SEAL, several UZIs were present in SF, one was captured and is in Hanoi's museum and the Seal Stoner 63. In the communist side the MG34 was present and i did read, but i don't see a photo, the hungarian AMD 65 and the VZ 58, is see in the final ofensive. If somebody know about others weapons i wait the response.
Posted on: 07/04/2014 05:44:00

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Posted by: Paintybeard
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I know that it isn't at all rare, but I rather hope we will see a book about the M79 grenade launcher eventually.
Posted on: 07/04/2014 06:39:00
Posted by: scratchbuilder
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Joined Date: Saturday, 6 July 2013
I remember reading at that time, that one of the problems with the M 16 rifle was, that because of the foresight pylon, it couldn't fit into the ports on the side of M 111 infantry vehicles. So large numbers of Uzi's were procured and bolted into the ports as defensive weapons.
Posted on: 07/04/2014 10:05:00
Posted by: hobbe62
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Kpist m/45 (The Swedish-K) was used by the US Special forces.
Posted on: 07/04/2014 10:35:00
Posted by: scratchbuilder
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Sorry / pardon. i have a very heavy cold and it isn't doing my concentration any good. I meant M113.
Posted on: 07/04/2014 12:57:00
Posted by: andyana
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The Communists had a whole ton of stuff from ex-Wehrmacht and Soviet sources, such as StG-44s and the aforementioned MG-34. The caption to one of the colour plates in Osprey's "US Combat Shotguns" claims the SEALs used the H&K G3! Coolest rarity I've heard of is the Chinese Type 64 silenced SMG, which was apparently floating around in the hands of the Vietcong for a while. The Uzis used as firing port weapons is interesting, though - never heard that! Reminds me of that weird M321 they used on the Bradley in the 1980s...
Posted on: 07/04/2014 14:55:00
Posted by: PTB
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There is some debate over whether or not the SEALS used the G-3 in Vietnam. Kevin Dockery states in his book "Weapons of the Navy Seals" that the G-3 was never used by the SEALS, only the HK33. He believes that any claims that the G3 was used in Vietnam are due to the HK33 being misidentified as the G3. An interesting & unique NVA weapon is the MAT-49 with custom suppressor, supposedly used by their counter-SOG teams. There is a photo on this site: http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/WestPointMilitaryMuseum/SubmachineGuns/pages/10FrenchMAT49SilencedSubmachineGun.htm Scrathbuilder: I've never heard of uzis being mounted in the M113. Do you have a reference for this? I've read about the suppressed Uzis used by SOG HALO teams, and have seen a photo of an ARVN with an Uzi, but I never thought these SMGs were ever used in large numbers in Vietnam.
Posted on: 07/04/2014 18:32:00
Posted by: xeneize
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PTB. The confusión is becouse exist a photo of a SEAL from above with a H&K and many people think than is a G-3, but i see one where is a HK-33 with the 40 rounds magazine, the extended magazine was the reason for the SEAL to buy the H&K
Posted on: 08/04/2014 02:10:00
Posted by: Amaral
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There were plenty of US made weapons in the hands of the Viet Minh and later Communist forces. The Americans still didn't explain that...
Posted on: 08/04/2014 06:10:00
Posted by: nomeL
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A couple of other rarities for weapons used in Vietnam would have to be; Sten SMG fitted with suppressor used by MACV SOG (& others?) Sterling suppressed SMG L34A1 used by Australian & New Zealand SAS
Posted on: 08/04/2014 11:52:00
Posted by: xeneize
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Joined Date: Friday, 18 January 2013
The vietnamese made today a unlicensed copy of the XM-177 for the Pólice and SF. In present day the vietnamese forces use AK,M-16 variants, Tavor, AK-74, MP5, Mini UZI, Micro UZI and SVD.
Posted on: 09/04/2014 01:14:00
Posted by: PTB
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xeneize You are correct as to the source of the confusion in regards to the G3, at least that is the reason Dockery states in his book. I have also read on an internet site that the SEALS used the Walther MPK in Vietnam, maybe even the suppressed version. However, Dockery doesn't mention the Walther in his book, and I've never found another credible source that confirms this claim. Another unique weapon used by the SEALS in Vietnam worth mentioning here: Remington 7188 full auto shotgun!
Posted on: 09/04/2014 04:03:00
Posted by: xeneize
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PTB. I don`t know if the SEALs used the Walther MPK in Vietnam, but is sure than the Delta Force used the MPK in "Eagle Claw" in Iran, i see the photos , but again some sources say the SMG in Iran was the H&K MP5.
Posted on: 09/04/2014 05:26:00
Posted by: PTB
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xeneize I was aware that Delta used the Walther MPK for a brief time but never saw the "Eagle Claw" photos. Did you see them in a book or on the internet?
Posted on: 09/04/2014 15:48:00
Posted by: xeneize
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PTB. Was in a book of Green Berets from Motorbooks International, i did see in the 90's in a library in Buenos Aires, a surprise, at the time i was sure than MP5 was the weapon in "Eagle Claw".
Posted on: 09/04/2014 22:34:00
Posted by: Amaral
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By the way, we need a raid on that...
Posted on: 10/04/2014 03:38:00
Posted by: skullheadman
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Amaral, to answer your question about American weapons in the hands of Communist forces, there are three main sources. First, there were American weapons available throughout Asia, left over from the World War II era, whuch the US had supplied to varied countries to fight the Japanese. Two, Many US or other western weapons which were captured by Communsit forces during the Korean War were filtered down to Vietnam. Additionally, the Viet Minh and Cong would readily use any weapons captured from the French and South Vietnamese troops, which consisted of a lot of older US weapons; and of course they would use anything captured from US troops.
Posted on: 10/04/2014 18:55:00
Posted by: skullheadman
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Joined Date: Friday, 11 February 2011
There are photos in Osprey's books of US Special Forces NCOs and USAF members carrying German MP-40s in the Vietnam conflict. IIRC, one of the guys in the Air Force photo also has a Hitler Youth knife. One of my favorite stories of weapon modification comes from a book I read written by a Nam vet SEAL. He described his team taking an M-60, shortening the barrel, removing the buttstock and welding a steel plate in its place, and removing the pistol grip and trigger and modifying the firing mechanism. Basically, all the had to do was insert a belt of ammo and pull the charging handle and it would rock on full auto until it ran out of ammo or they broke the belt. They used it as a very loud break-contact weapon to lay down lots of lead. It was not accurate and difficult to control, but was basically a metal rectangular box with a barrel that spit out 7.62mm rounds with lots of noise and muzzle flash. Maybe not too practical, but it sounded pretty cool.
Posted on: 10/04/2014 19:05:00
Posted by: Amaral
Total Posts: 200
Joined Date: Friday, 8 March 2013
The Australian SAS also modified their FN L1A1s, they cutted down its barrel, gas piston tube and forearm. It was called "The Bitch" and produced excessive muzzle blast and recoil, so as to help them breaking contact.
Posted on: 12/04/2014 07:09:00
Posted by: Alessio
Total Posts: 61
Joined Date: Saturday, 28 November 2009
Guys, you forgot to mention Beretta PM12 in the hands of U.S. personel seen on footage of the attak on U.S. embassy during the Tet offensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1vJqTN-qVI (about. 1.31)
Posted on: 18/04/2014 22:36:00

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