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Posted by: Sean O B I was wondering has any though of doing something on the Swiss Guard especially their earlier period from their mercenary origins & establishment in 1506 up to the present day? they must be one of the longest continuous ceremony/body guard formation still extant? Anyway just a random thought...of maybe Osprey have already covered this??? Sean
Posted on: 31/12/2013 02:51:00

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Posted by: Sean O B
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Joined Date: Tuesday, 31 December 2013
I was wondering has anyone thought of doing something on the Swiss Guard, especially their earlier period, from their mercenary origins & establishment in 1506 up to the present day? They must be one of the longest continuous ceremony/body guard formation still extant? Anyway just a random thought...maybe Osprey have already covered this??? Sean
Posted on: 31/12/2013 02:52:00
Posted by: three
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Joined Date: Tuesday, 8 February 2011
Not only the pope's swiss guard but other kings that used swiss as their guards as well.
Posted on: 31/12/2013 09:30:00
Posted by: scratchbuilder
Total Posts: 51
Joined Date: Saturday, 6 July 2013
Something for Osprey to pontificate about! (Groan). A MAA about the 18th century Swiss Regiments in French service, similar to the one on the Wild Geese, would be good.
Posted on: 31/12/2013 10:37:00
Posted by: WickedMessenger
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Joined Date: Wednesday, 22 May 2013
But will it sell? No money, no Swiss! Sorry, I couldn't resist;-)
Posted on: 31/12/2013 17:47:00
Posted by: Saberfencer
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Joined Date: Wednesday, 7 January 2009
I have made this exact same suggestion before, and I continue to think it would be a great idea for an elite title. I hope Osprey takes this topic under serious consideration.
Posted on: 31/12/2013 19:54:00
Posted by: Neil Grant
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Joined Date: Friday, 27 March 2015
Remember Swiss bodyguards are something of a fashion accessory in the period - think of Shakespeare; what does King Claudius shout when he's startled by the play-within-a-play in Hamlet? "Switzers! Where are my Switzers?"
Posted on: 31/12/2013 20:31:00
Posted by: scratchbuilder
Total Posts: 51
Joined Date: Saturday, 6 July 2013
Northern Italy has been quite well covered by Osprey in the medieval and renaissance periods, but so far as I am aware there is very little on the Papal States. Given that the Swiss Guards are still wearing the uniform created for them by Michelangelo Bonarotti an MAA or Elite would be very thin on illustrations, but a book on the Papal Armies could work them in. Comments and suggestions please.
Posted on: 01/01/2014 12:29:00
Posted by: FJ-1973
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Joined Date: Tuesday, 4 September 2012
Good idea. But as mentioned hasn´t the uniforms change since Michelangelo Bonarotti, so that part will not give much information. But I agree, one book about the Papal army is a gap to fill!
Posted on: 04/01/2014 10:20:00
Posted by: Amaral
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Joined Date: Friday, 8 March 2013
What about their modern training?
Posted on: 07/01/2014 04:33:00
Posted by: FJ-1973
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Joined Date: Tuesday, 4 September 2012
The attempted murder 13 may 1981 at pope Johannes Paulus II, and also this “war against terror” must probably have changed the guards role, from only a part in the ceremony to really protect his life. They must have more modern training than only how to use halberds.
Posted on: 15/01/2014 17:08:00
Posted by: scratchbuilder
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Joined Date: Saturday, 6 July 2013
I don't know what the status of the Papal Swiss Guard is now, but during the cold war era Italian youths could volunteer to do their national service in the Vatican rather than the Italian Armed Forces. This was used as a dodge for rich boys with the right political connections to avoid service. I visited the Vatican in 1977 and the bunch of spotty herberts I saw poured into the uniforms, couldn't have won a pillow fight with the Girl Guides!
Posted on: 15/01/2014 23:38:00
Posted by: Amaral
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Joined Date: Friday, 8 March 2013
Made me remember these two scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFKXu66bZ1g - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GivDZ13-i0
Posted on: 16/01/2014 23:47:00

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